David Burda: Now let's step back a little bit and talk about how what you did in Haiti dovetails with Scripps mission.
Chris Van Gorder: OK. Well part of it's humanitarian, although I have to admit some people say, ‘Well, is part of our mission to help people in the Gulf or in Haiti?' I say you have to think beyond this incident. I'm always concerned about disasters. That's been one of my issues for years, particularly after 9/11 when we saw the building go down. We knew that as the firefighters and police officers rushed into the building they were rushing into danger while everybody else was rushing out. Doctors and nurses aren't all that much different. If patients came to our hospitals—contaminated with a biological or something like that—our doctors and nurses, no doubt, would put themselves in harm's way to take care of them. And shame on the hospital administrator that hasn't prepared for that and provided the protective gear and training for their staff to be able to take care of them. And we took a look at what we had after 9/11, and we woefully underprepared for any type of disaster like that. So we started gearing up, and part of what I wanted to do is not only get the equipment but provide the experience and the training. And so that's when we came up with the concept of the Scripps Medical Response Team, so if we did have a disaster, we could send our people into the community and take care of them rather than just sitting at a hospital waiting for everybody to come to us. We had no idea that our first time that we would use it was after Hurricane Katrina. And then now in Haiti. What do we get out of that? Well, Haiti as a particular example—
David Burda: You mentioned earlier. Was there any community criticism. You made a point about why are you going to Haiti—
Chris Van Gorder: Only one physician sent me a note, but after we got back from the first mission to Haiti, and he said, ‘There's been a mudslide in Afghanistan, are you going to go there now?'
David Burda: Sarcasm.
Chris Van Gorder: A little sarcasm. Yes. Actually, his own partners ended up criticizing him for that e-mail. What we got out of it—we ended up sending doctors, and they saw the injuries, the same kinds of injuries we would see in a major earthquake in California. That's our biggest risk in California is earthquakes. While we see some crush injuries from time to time, they're not the same kind of injuries that we would see in a major earthquake where somebody's been trapped underground for a period of days. For example, we treated a young engineering student in Haiti who is now paralyzed, had lower extremity injuries, but he also had because of pressure sores underground, the biggest pressure ulcer I've ever seen in my entire—the entire buttocks was a pressure sore. And that was a very challenging case actually for our doctors to be able to take care of. So they get the experience of really seeing disaster-related injuries, and they get the mental hardness that I think you need to have in a disaster scenario. And they get to come back now and teach other doctors and nurses what it was like to be there, how they had to take care of people without all the—you know, without electricity, without all the tools and instruments and staff that they would need at home. And, I think, I'm just very proud of the doctors and nurses and what they did for those patients. And I know now in a disaster situation in San Diego, they will be in the front lines, mentally prepared, technically prepared to be able to take care of—so that's part the reasons.